Unfortunately in the one I received, one of the screws and its plastic post into which it screws to the lid, was missing, and one of the remaining two had broken away in shipment, so the floppy drive had fallen and gotten stuck below its opening. The insides are sheet metal of a thick variety, but the floppy disk drive in its metal box is only held on with three screws. More evidence that Yamaha keyboards are designed by committee. One thing I might point out is that, like other Yamaha keyboards, the SY85 is built like a tank in some places but has congenital weaknesses in others. If I want sweeping guitars, I have a JD-800 (god what a guitar sound) and a ZR-76. After months or years you find you have a one trick pony that ends up sleeping under its tarp most of the time. But then, as you point out, even that can only take you so far. I have to admit, beside the passing resemblance to the AN1x, the main thing that sounded attractive about the CS2x is the 64 separate filters, one for each voice. I am only looking for information on any notable differences between the AWM2. Indeed, I want to ignore all the things that make the SY85 superior to the CS2x. I keep my CS2X mostly for one particularly great sounding, grungy-distorted guitar, which from the YT demos I've heard of the SY85, it seems like it has a lot of great guitarish sounds too, but I didn't hear the one particular patch/voice that I love on the CS2X, if it didn't have it or be able to recreate it, then I would probably wind up keeping both synths, just for one dumb patchĪlso, does the SY85 have a dual HPF + LPF filter with distance? HPF with LPF is nice on the CS2X, basically can set their cutoff distance on it quickly since they have separate knobs, or maybe its just two chained filters I'm not sure, but having them paired like they are on the CS2X I think makes for some unique sounding sweeps.Īnyhow, I'm unsure of the prices they go for now days, but have you looked in to the older Motifs, or an RS7000 at all?Įxcellent! Thank you. Not sure about SY85 either, but if you are able to have AWM2 performance sounds across more than one track/channel it would be a no brainer for me, I'd keep the SY85 and forget about the CS2X. There may be an exception there for drum sets on track 10, but unsure of that or if it matters much, been a while since I've sequenced my CS2X. The rest of the tracks/channels have to be relegated to having to use the XG sounds, which arn't nearly as editable. It is at heart mainly just a performance synthesizer. The other thing is, even if you get a sequencer, like a QY70 which does go nice with the CS2x on its tray, but anyhow you are limited to using the CS2X's performance sounds to just one track/channel. The arp on the CS2X is not programmable, you are stuck with the same arps and they are not too bad, but become useless and boring over time. Seems like you want to ignore all the important parts of the SY85, I don't think I could do that, the workstation features would be a huge plus if you don't have something to sequence the CS2X. I've noticed the AWM2 TG in them all can sound quite a bit different from each other since you have to account for the entire synth engine, what comes after the TG, to properly judge each synth's characteristic sound. I've never used an SY85, but have used a lot of Yamaha synths and have had a CS2X for a number of years. Let's hear from anyone who's has first hand experience. I guess it boils down to can the CS2x do anything the SY85 can't do, except play twice as many notes at once? I've been listening to as much video and audio of the two as I can find, but internet quality sound is no measure for comparison. Especially since CS2xs in good condition are going for twice the price of my SY85. But, just generally, comparing the tone of the AWM2 in one to the other, are they the same, or are there marked differences? I was looking to get a CS2x for a long time, and might still, but I just acquired an SY85 for a paltry sum, and I am wondering if a CS2x would add anything notably different to warrant the cost. I suppose the one having 90 types of effect in two separate processors would greatly overshadow the other with only three independent effects. Does anyone know of any tonal differences between these two AWM2 keyboards? Ignore that one is a workstation with a full sequencer, more controls, floppy disk drive, card slots, and aftertouch, and the other has twice the polyphony and an arpeggiator.
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